George Will-Jeb Bush Wrong About Today's GOP

[David]

George Will debunks Jeb Bush’s assertion modern GOP has shifted to ‘the extreme’

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/17/ge...#ixzz1y4sckJZi

[Bemused]

Originally Posted by David

George Will debunks Jeb Bush’s assertion modern GOP has shifted to ‘the extreme’

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/17/ge...#ixzz1y4sckJZi

From the article:

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“Well, let’s look at the facts,” Will said. “Since Ronald Reagan, the Republican Party has given its presidential nomination four times to the Bush family. Other times, to Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney — where’s the extremist in that lot? Now, Jeb Bush’s father is celebrated today for a statesman ship that consisted of breaking the promise to the American people of not raising taxes. He had a budget deal in 1990, Austan [Goolsbee] because this goes back to something you said earlier. In the budget deal it was said for every $2 of — every dollar of tax increase, would be $2 of spending cuts. The tax increases went into effect and spending increased.”

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Time for Will to be put out to pasture. That is said as a LONG time ADMIRER of Will.

Why is there a Tea Party, who gravitated to the Republican Party?

Get a klew, Goergie!

[FoundingFather]

Originally Posted by Bemused

From the article:

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“Well, let’s look at the facts,” Will said. “Since Ronald Reagan, the Republican Party has given its presidential nomination four times to the Bush family. Other times, to Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney — where’s the extremist in that lot? Now, Jeb Bush’s father is celebrated today for a statesman ship that consisted of breaking the promise to the American people of not raising taxes. He had a budget deal in 1990, Austan [Goolsbee] because this goes back to something you said earlier. In the budget deal it was said for every $2 of — every dollar of tax increase, would be $2 of spending cuts. The tax increases went into effect and spending increased.”

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Time for Will to be put out to pasture. That is said as a LONG time ADMIRER of Will.

Why is there a Tea Party, who gravitated to the Republican Party?

Get a klew, Goergie!

One of his points is that the Republican party has a history of NOT nominating Conservatives.

The companion point he made, which you did not include, is that the conservatives (like Reagan) become acceptable about 20 years after they are gone.

The party as a whole is not far right just because a few candidates that the Tea Party backed won office.

If wanting the budget balanced, doing away with crony capitalism, and living by the Constitution is considered "extreme" then this country is in a world of hurt.

[Rifleman]

It's much more simple that that, Jeb Bush has adopted the DimocRAT definition of "extreme". It's like the modern defintion of "Moderate".

For Bush to do this, is more simply an example of backstabbing. It's like Rove's trashing of Tea Party leaning Republicans who won the nominations fair and square. They pretend that they're the ones who are reasonable.

And I have commented on the IDIOTIC, (and that is understated)debate over Moderate/extremism definitions before. Instead of debating the particular issues on the basis of facts, success, fairness, benefits, etc. , these MORONS, (also an understatement) on the basis of a way left sliding definition! Straw man? If necessary! So that folks, is how we got $21 Trillion spending during the Obama administration, with a $6 Trillion deficit added to the National debt, and probably a similar amount ($21 Trillion)of the entire spending added to obligations outside the budget, mostly by the Fed.

So opposing that, $42 Trillion estimated in Federal spending, is what David Brooks and now Jeb Bush define as extreme. I suppose opposing the illegal immigration of another 12 million or so Mexicans into the US to which the US tax payers will have to foot the bill for education, Health Care, while they lose their own jobs from the undercutting of thier pay is also defined as extreme.

As for the Bushes, I am through with them, they get in office and go left from there. It was bad enough that neither George or GW would defend themselves from Dim slander, they caved on major points that we will likely never get rid of. And now, we have Jeb Bush slandering Republicans, some of the only Republicans who are honest anymore.

[bond]

I think the Bush and Will side are dead on about the Party going to the EXTREME .

And the Extreme that frightens them is the idea that it isn't going to be business as usual . REAL Change would start with the ouster of The BONEHEAD Speaker OF THE HOUSE I guess we can wish for that
For all the headline grabbing we have seen about cutting Taxes, the new bunch wants to actually reduce spending, not the double fake things we hear about but reductions in the SCOPE of programs and the personal it takes to run them and the money they receive.

[Bemused]

Originally Posted by bond

I think the Bush and Will side are dead on about the Party going to the EXTREME .

And the Extreme that frightens them is the idea that it isn't going to be business as usual . REAL Change would start with the ouster of The BONEHEAD Speaker OF THE HOUSE I guess we can wish for that
For all the headline grabbing we have seen about cutting Taxes, the new bunch wants to actually reduce spending, not the double fake things we hear about but reductions in the SCOPE of programs and the personal it takes to run them and the money they receive.

I agree.

[Bemused]

Originally Posted by FoundingFather

One of his points is that the Republican party has a history of NOT nominating Conservatives.

The companion point he made, which you did not include, is that the conservatives (like Reagan) become acceptable about 20 years after they are gone.

The party as a whole is not far right just because a few candidates that the Tea Party backed won office.

If wanting the budget balanced, doing away with crony capitalism, and living by the Constitution is considered "extreme" then this country is in a world of hurt.

I wonder where theis idea came from, that the Republican party is "conservative"?

A quick look at history shows otherwise. Born in 1856, the Grand Old Party was born of the very liberal idea that slavery should end, after all. Republicans led the charge to the Federal Reserve, the breakup of Standard Oil, the creation of the national park system, and here in California, such liberal ideas as referendum, initiative, and recall. Such things put put more power into the hands of the people - rampant liberalism!

Why, the Republican party supported the right of abortion until 1980, when Reagan had that plank removed from his platform!

I suggest that the conservative party in American history were the Southern Democrats! How about it? Do you buy that argument?