Dr. Laura Calls Day Care Centers Like Nazi Germany

[David Gold]

I hate daycare centers. I would describe them as a throwback to the old Soviet Union where the State owned your kids. Anti _Defamation League doesn't have enough to do. NY Post

DR. LAURA RIPPED
FOR 'NAZI' QUIP

By ANDY SOLTIS


January 3, 2004 -- A Holocaust Studies institute is asking radio talk-show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger to retract her on-air comments yesterday comparing some U.S. day-care centers to child-rearing practices in Nazi Germany.
The pop psychologist, whose syndicated show is broadcast on more than 200 stations, read a letter from a listener who criticized the lack of attention given to children in some American "child development centers" and other day-care facilities.

Schlessinger said, "It sounds like something out of Nazi Germany."

That drew a complaint from the David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies, which asked for a retraction.

"Whatever their flaws, child development centers are not comparable to Nazi Germany, a brutal fascist dictatorship that slaughtered six million Jews," said Wyman Institute director Rafael Medoff said:

Last year, the Council on American-Islamic Relations asked for an apology after receiving complaints that Schlessinger denounced Arab-Americans and Muslims.

She has also been condemned for negative remarks about gays.



Efforts to reach her were unsuccessful.

[Osiris]

This Schlessinger is always opening mouth and inserting her own foot/feet. No doubt, that "some" day care enterprises need to be cleaned up and/or out, but to compare them to the nazi's, is stepping too far. By the way, which religion is this woman now these days?

[dcannady]

a brutal fascist dictatorship that slaughtered six million Jews

Is this, then, the sum total of Nazism? Of course, not.

Surely, there are some who have analyzed the actions of the Nazi's and attempted to glean, from their successes, those elements that could be applied today.

I am certain that many scheming politicians have determined that, minus the brutality and the slaughter of millions, the Nazis were quite successful.

Consider the group demonization that exists today, collectivism is a very Nazi thing and both parties lean on it heavily because their real goal is to consolidate power.

The New Fascism

[rachel]

Once again, Dr. Laura is quoted without context, and in most sources, inaccurately.

A Holocaust Studies institute is urging radio talk show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger to retract her on-air comments comparing some U.S. day-care centers to child-rearing practices in Nazi Germany.

On Friday, Schlessinger, whose coast-to-coast show is heard by 12 million listeners, read a letter from a listener who criticized the lack of attention given to children in some day-care centers, especially those calling themselves ''Child Development Centers.''

Dr. Laura said: ''It sounds like something out of Nazi Germany.''

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=36438

Dr. Laura made no comparisons between daycare centers and death camps/the holocaust. She compared some daycare centers to Nazi day care centers, where children were placed, away from their parents to be indoctrinated in the party line.

Of course, the distinction will be purposefully missed by her critics.

[rachel]

By the way, which religion is this woman now these days?

Gee Os, that wouldn't be a gratuitously snide comment about a person's individual search for spirituality, would it? In answer, she's never given up Judaism as her identified religion. She just isn't following orthodox practices anymore. You know, keeping a kosher kitchen etc? Many Jews (and people of other faiths) experiment with various levels of discipline within their religion before they find their needed level of spiritual comfort.

As for me, I respect her for being up front and honest about her spiritual journey.

[Osiris]

Yes Rachel, it was a "snide" comment. Not the best of order, but then I have so little respect for her anyway, and make no apologies for it. It was meant as a snipe against her, not against religion, but her various statements and then backtracking on them.

As for the context, since there is no way to see the full context yet, for some reason, aside from the complaint, I cannot find the commentary anywhere that offers context. But from what I have been able to glean from a few places about all of this, it seems to be that the core issue was whether or not Day Care Centers can provide the love and nurturing that is necessary for children. On that issue, I can quite well imagine that many might fail on that premise. But that does still beg the question, does that then mean that the are comparable to the nazi era? For that matter, many of the HOMES of children would also fail to provide the love and nurturing of their young children. Would it then fall to be characterized in the same manner, as being like nazi Germany?

I examined her internet site, but the topic doesn't seem to exist there for some reason, so context cannot be heard or seen. So how can we get the facts, that children are being "indoctrinated" with the Party line, and who's Party line is being indoctrinated? Maybe it is somewhere else, I will have to go find it.

[rachel]

Well then shame on you for sneering at anyone's honest religious seeking, whether you like them or not.

Just because she holds different views on some subjects than you do, and espouses her views on the air as is her job to do (you certainly aren't under duress to listen to her), doesn't mean that her journey is false or despicable some how.

Generally, her internet site lags behind the events of her show about a week. All the brouhaha has just come to the fore. Likely she'll post a statement at her site at some time soon, explaining yet again, the background and context of a minor comment that the Left has taken up to run with...mostly without even having seen the text or listened to the particular show. By the way, I did listen to that particular show, and to the best of my knowlege, the quote I posted is correct. That was it. A one line response, no further mention.

[Osiris]

Just because she holds different views on some subjects than you do, and espouses her views on the air as is her job to do (you certainly aren't under duress to listen to her), doesn't mean that her journey is false or despicable some how.

No, and it doesn't mean that I cannot make a comment on how I feel about what she says and does either. Just as no one here is under "duress" to read/listen to everything said by any claimed liberal newsmaker either. But we do, because we want to. She makes her views/comments into the public arena, allowing for discussion of them.

I hadn't realized that her comments first came into being last Friday. I know that for most pundits on the radio, their material takes time to transcribe to the internet. So I will simply wait for more, if even then it is even worth further comment. On the other hand Rachel, you said..."Once again, Dr. Laura is quoted without context, and in most sources, inaccurately." Making an allegation, that makes sense, but for the fact that for any who did not hear her comments directly, and that there exists no way to verify the fullness of what is currently being said, how can anyone then get the "full context"? And how can anyone commenting on this matter, be held to being off context, if there is nothing else shown?

Suffice it to say, that until the context is seen, I will not comment any further on he claimed statement. By the way, I also visited the site of those who made that complaint against her, and they do not have anything either.

[PeteS in CA]

A Holocaust Studies institute is asking radio talk-show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger to retract her on-air comments yesterday comparing some U.S. day-care centers to child-rearing practices in Nazi Germany.
The pop psychologist, whose syndicated show is broadcast on more than 200 stations, read a letter from a listener who criticized the lack of attention given to children in some American "child development centers" and other day-care facilities.
...
That drew a complaint from the David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies, which asked for a retraction.

"Whatever their flaws, child development centers are not comparable to Nazi Germany, a brutal fascist dictatorship that slaughtered six million Jews," said Wyman Institute director Rafael Medoff

Medoff's manipulative, dishonest context transplant is obvious, even without the bold/itallic emphasis I added in the quote above. I guess Medoff's desire to criticize Dr. Laura was so strong that he couldn't resist the temptation to set up a strawman.

[joe]

Osi,
You don't appreciate it when people judge another person's faithfulness to their religion, but it's perfectly acceptable (meaning you made no apology), for you to make snide comments about Dr. Laura and her religious path?

Anyways, I don't think the analogy between day care centers and Nazi Germany is a fair comparision. Keep in mind, my kids have never been left behind in day care so I am not defending them for that reason.

[PeteS in CA]

Some interesting "context":

http://www.psychoanalysisdownunder.c...echnol_kts.htm

This is an idea which Bion’s contemporary, the psychoanalyst-paediatrician D.W.Winnicott, famously summarized in his exclamation that there is no such thing as a baby, that infants do not exist outside a maternal environment (Winnicott, 1964, p.88). Moreover, such care cannot be understood as no more than the provision of physical services, as Nazi experiments demonstrated (Henry and Hillel, 1976). Babies quickly die if they are not psychologically as well as physically ‘handled’. It is infinitely preferable that the psychological interaction be loving but, as child abuse cases make only too clear, babies will readily use abusive psychological handling to construct a self.

[rachel]

What do you want to bet that these a-holes at Moveon.org are outraged, simply outraged at Dr. Laura's insensitivity to the suffering of millions? I'm sure they have been having conversations with their friends about how awful she is for making that comment.


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[NetGear]

Give them all the rope they need -- Soros will help -- and they will bury themselves in absurdities.

[Osiris]

Joe, when someone makes a public spectical of it, then yes I do feel that it is fair to make a comment, nay or yea.

And I am also not all that fond of people who ridiculously pull out the "nazi/Hitler card either. Whether they be right or left politically, they are on very thin ice. Hitler, the nazis, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, and Stalin, are in a class all by themselves(along with their supporters that is). And I doubt that heating is not much of a problem where they are right now either.

[seattlegal]

And I am also not all that fond of people who ridiculously pull out the "nazi/Hitler card either. Whether they be right or left politically, they are on very thin ice. Hitler, the nazis, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, and Stalin, are in a class all by themselves(along with their supporters that is). And I doubt that heating is not much of a problem where they are right now either.

Exactly! I have about as much respect for those who play the "nazi/Hitler" card as those who play the "race card." uke:

[rachel]

The Nazi card has become an absolute favorite with the Left. Anything they don't like smacks of Naziism and anyone they don't like is Hitler. But of course, let Dr. Laura make one comment to the effect that some day care centers sound like something out of Nazi Germany (remember Hitler Youth, the kids taken away from their parent's influence to be raised by the state in centers?) and all Hell breaks loose.

Reagan was a Nazi, Bush is a Nazi, The Patriot Act is Naziism, our Military is storming houses in Iraq like a bunch of Nazis, Rumsfeld is a Nazi, on and on. If these people ever had to deal with a real Nazi, they'd load their drawers. :evil:

[Derick]

Wow! Simply amazing!

A few months ago, I forced Osiris' hand into showing his end game. It turned out (as I expected) that he compared George W. Bush, President of the United States, with Adolph Hitler.

True to form, he backpeddled and denied, blaming me for "painting him in a corner" -- of course the corner he created. Now his ilk at Moveon.org are blatantly making the comparison.

As I have said, many a time, eventually the truth comes out.

[seattlegal]

Good to have you back on the board, Derick!

[Osiris]

Derick, perhaps you would like to show your proof on that claim of yours?

[joe]

Joe, when someone makes a public spectical of it, then yes I do feel that it is fair to make a comment, nay or yea.

Ok. You question Dr. Laura's faithfulness to her religion or whatever religion she belongs too. I question Clinton's Baptist faithfulness in comparison to what the Baptist church really believes. What's the difference in what you and I are doing?