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Old 06-07-2012, 1:54 PM
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Default Boy Scouts to review anti-gay policy

I think this is telling and moreso as the SCOTUS has previously upheld the Boy Scout's right to deny leadrship roles to gay men.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ay-policy?lite

I agree with David on this generally. He specifically says gay marriage being legal across the US is inevitable.

Even more is coming as younger folks enter social and political organizations in the US.

Even those religious organizations traditionally conservative on this are changing because of younger members. This is a growing issue among evangelical Christians as younger evangelicals are increasingly open to this.

Even fundamentalists are not immune. The (very rare) Southern Baptist congregation (in my area) recently split as younger members demanded that their openly gay friends be allowed to join. Older members said no. Church split. Neither side could afford to buy out the other for the physical church. JW's are hoping to aquire the property but developers are eyeing it and will likely win out.

Either way, on gay issues, the times are a changing and eventually Christianity will join in this as the new generation replales the old.

As is happening with the Boy Scouts as we see it begin to voluntarilly it's position on gay Scout leaders.
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If it is inevitable, why the strong arm tactics? Let the elections go their own way and quit with the phony discrimiation issue. The Boy scouts had the policy, I believe because primarily pedophilia, not homosexuality specfically.

The "fundemenatlist" Christian doctrine is that homeosexuality is a sin, just like hetreosexual fornication. Therefore, homosexuals are like everyone else, they need to repent and change their ways. Therefore, to be tolerant of people in a gay sexual relationship is the same as being tolerant of people in an adulterous or who engage in fornication, which is the same as anyone doing any other sin willfully. I have no justification to deny entry into the Church of anyone, who repents and tries to follow Christ. In fact, it is the Southern Baptists who deny doing that would imperil their salvation, even though the scripture is clear. Some fundementalists!
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Media engineered - no truth to the topic according to the Boy Scouts
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If it is inevitable, why the strong arm tactics? Let the elections go their own way and quit with the phony discrimiation issue. The Boy scouts had the policy, I believe because primarily pedophilia, not homosexuality specfically.

The "fundemenatlist" Christian doctrine is that homeosexuality is a sin, just like hetreosexual fornication. Therefore, homosexuals are like everyone else, they need to repent and change their ways. Therefore, to be tolerant of people in a gay sexual relationship is the same as being tolerant of people in an adulterous or who engage in fornication, which is the same as anyone doing any other sin willfully. I have no justification to deny entry into the Church of anyone, who repents and tries to follow Christ. In fact, it is the Southern Baptists who deny doing that would imperil their salvation, even though the scripture is clear. Some fundementalists!
Once upon a time, various "Christian" sects (white southern baptists, for example) justified slavery because people of African descent bore the mark of Cain.

The times, they are a changing, and it is because the message of love is becoming predominant. Hard to argue against love, despite the efforts of the old school.

PS ain't nothing stopping folks from leaving the uptight hate filled congregations that want to exclude and forming their own sects. #'s 50,000 and one, 50,000 and two, etc.
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Legalizing pedophilia is probably inevitable too, should we just surrender?

civilization is falling by the wayside, it is inevitable, I guess we should join in? No way.
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I don't recall the last pedophilia poll having 50+% support.

The BSA is going to get swamped with protest resignations in the next few months. Heck, a the whole council, the largest in the country at 75,000 scouts, decided to tell the national council they can take a hike on the gay scout ban.
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I don't recall the last pedophilia poll having 50+% support.

The BSA is going to get swamped with protest resignations in the next few months. Heck, a the whole council, the largest in the country at 75,000 scouts, decided to tell the national council they can take a hike on the gay scout ban.
Wow! A new Boy Scouts? I can't wait to see the new "Merit Badges"!
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Same sex marriage is not inevitable in my opinion. As the younger generation moves away from the platitudes and slogans they were indoctrinated with in school and college and open their minds to different views, many will come to see the expansion of homosexuality in society as a society in decline. In addition they will come to realize that those who oppose same sex marriage are not about hate as they have been indoctrinated to believe their whole lives, but about building a lasting and and thriving nation. They will come to understand the war against traditional families undermines this objective.
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Many years ago Michael Reagan said on his program that he's not worried about homosexuals taking over. He noted that they can't reproduce. Unfortunately, science and Obamacare is changing that.

I'd like to think that Fox is right. But as with all the other decline in this society, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Homosexuality, especially among the young, is about hedonism. We can see that druggies don't want to give up drugs. So I'm not that optimistic.
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