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Put A Fence On Mexican Border?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:39 pm    Post subject: fence Reply with quote

So it is better to leave our borders unguarded and wake up one morning to a tv immages of people being hauled away to a make shift morge after a strain of small pox gene spliced with eboli has wiped out a city, than to tick of a Mexican president?

This is silly. The fact that the southern border is unguarded and that Mexico encourages people to come here illegally is an afront to honest hard working citizens of this country.

Now for some correct history. The reason that the Maganot line did not extend from the Alps to the Channel was that the French did not want to tick off the Belgiums. This left the line with an open flank. The Germans would never have been able to breach the line if it had been complete. Trying to flank it by sea would have been nearly impossible. So if we are to draw a modern parallel form that bit of history it would be that worring about your neighbor getting upset caused France to fall under Nazi rule for just over four years. How should we apply that logic to our situation today.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any Republican who wants to be President will find this issue a litmus test. It's gaining momentum. Prediction-Watch HRC get behind the fence issue. USA Today
Momentum builds for fence along U.S.-Mexican border
By Mimi Hall, USA TODAY
A once-radical idea to build a 2,000-mile steel-and-wire fence on the U.S.-Mexican border is gaining momentum amid warnings that terrorists can easily sneak into the country.

In Congress, a powerful Republican lawmaker this week proposed building such a fence across the entire border and two dozen other lawmakers signed on. And via the Internet, a group called has raised enough money to air TV ads warning that the border is open to terrorists.

Even at the Homeland Security Department, which opposes building a border-long fence, Secretary Michael Chertoff this fall waived environmental laws so that construction can continue on a 14-mile section of fence near San Diego that has helped border agents stem the flow of illegal migrants and drug runners.

"You have to be able to enforce your borders," says California Rep. Duncan Hunter, the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. He's proposing a fence from San Diego to Brownsville, Texas. "It's no longer just an immigration issue. It's now a national security issue."

Colin Hanna of says "there is incredible momentum on this issue," fueled by the specter of another Sept. 11. His group aired TV ads in Washington, D.C., this fall and plans more next year.

Fencing the border, originally proposed in the debate over how to stop illegal immigration, is controversial. The Bush administration argues that a Berlin Wall-style barrier would be a huge waste of money — costing up to $8 billion.

Border Patrol Chief David Aguilar says it makes more sense to use a mix of additional agents, better surveillance and tougher enforcement of immigration laws — and fences.

But Hunter points to the experience in San Diego, where the number of illegal migrants arrested is one-sixth of what it was before the fence was built.

"People have made stupid editorial comments about the Great Wall of China," he says, "but the only thing that has worked is that fence."
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